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  Russian Ban upheld - JWs lose appeal

  by OrphanCrow in

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  the supreme court of russia has rejected the jehovah's witnesses' appeal.. https://jw-russia.org/news/17071719-195.html.

  july 17, 2017 the supreme court of russia has missed the last chance to restore law and justice for the 175,000 russian citizens professing the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

  it took less than an hour of the meeting a panel of three supreme court judges, to leave unchanged the decision taken earlier by the judge yuri ivanenko, the liquidation and ban any and all registered organizations of the religion.since there is no more effective domestic remedies, the believers will appeal to the european court of human rights and other international organizations.. *note: as reported by the jworg source, jw-russia.org.

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  Let me guess...some of the demons got the date wrong and maybe the wrong map from Satan and they ended up in Peru instead of making Russia's date with jehovah

  How can Satan work with Demons like these?
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  Did Jesus pre exist? Yes or no?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i first became a witness, i always found the teaching about jesus being the arch angel michael hard to swallow.

  i did however believe that jesus pre existed as a master worker alongside god (the first of his creation).. but now everything is brought into question having watched anthony buzzard explain why jesus could not have pre existed as it is impossible to pre exist yourself.

  also the fact that it all sounds contradictory to suggest, he was already alive millions of years before he was transferred to mary's womb to be born as a human - the son of man?.

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  I think that was he wanted to say in the transfiguration acount.

  he glorified with moses and elijah.

  God used a possibly special angel to communicate to Moses and Elijah, when he made the transfiguration I understand Jesus saying "hey guys, can you see it now? It was me! I was here to Israel all the time. I AM THE MESSIAH"
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  When do you think the 7 clowns will add more members to the exclusive GB club ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  will they draw a new name out of a hat or do a kiss test i don't know..

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  They wont bring a large number to the GB ever again. When the expurg of 80' happened they had broaded it to 14 members. They of course are traumatized.
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  Russian Ban upheld - JWs lose appeal

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the supreme court of russia has rejected the jehovah's witnesses' appeal.. https://jw-russia.org/news/17071719-195.html.

  july 17, 2017 the supreme court of russia has missed the last chance to restore law and justice for the 175,000 russian citizens professing the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

  it took less than an hour of the meeting a panel of three supreme court judges, to leave unchanged the decision taken earlier by the judge yuri ivanenko, the liquidation and ban any and all registered organizations of the religion.since there is no more effective domestic remedies, the believers will appeal to the european court of human rights and other international organizations.. *note: as reported by the jworg source, jw-russia.org.

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  No, I dont. I actually heard the reading of this letter at the meetinf, like two weeks after the ban.

  the main thing was that the community of witnesses here in Brazil went to the utmost nonsense and they started to put dozens of letters in only one big package and send it to the embassador.

  I told my elders that I didnt think it was it the GB meant, since for me it was clear the GB wanted NUMBERS. They wanted to show the world "see how many people care about us". Incredibly, most of the witnesses in here believed that the embassador, or even Putin was going to actually read the letters. You can see by that the intelectual level of the Group. Also some publishers went overexcited about the campaign and posted part or full letters on the internet and some of them made memes about the campaign.

  well, in the letter they talked about how sad was the ban on russia, firstly thanked all support by letters but THEN started to talk about how the 'instructions' from the GB should br followed strictly. The letter mentioned specifically the confusion about sending a pack of letters, posting on internet and the memes.

  it could be taken as something normal, but if you notice that they said three or four sentences to thank the brothers and sisters and a long explanation about how they had screwed up, you can see clearly what was the thought on the GB's heads.
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  1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

  by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think these exist ?

  has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

  or have copies of those pdf's?.

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  Do you guys know why would they cut these out? Doesn't look like the articles talk about subjects they changed later.
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  Russian Ban upheld - JWs lose appeal

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the supreme court of russia has rejected the jehovah's witnesses' appeal.. https://jw-russia.org/news/17071719-195.html.

  july 17, 2017 the supreme court of russia has missed the last chance to restore law and justice for the 175,000 russian citizens professing the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

  it took less than an hour of the meeting a panel of three supreme court judges, to leave unchanged the decision taken earlier by the judge yuri ivanenko, the liquidation and ban any and all registered organizations of the religion.since there is no more effective domestic remedies, the believers will appeal to the european court of human rights and other international organizations.. *note: as reported by the jworg source, jw-russia.org.

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  I think this ban is totally on the purposes of thhe russian orthodox church, it hurts the religion freedom of the people from there when they are not free to talk about what they believe.

  on the other hand I think the government shutting down the offices of the WT in Russia isnt a bad thing, anyway. For me shutting down the branches affects the GB much more directly than attacking the individual JWs. When the individuals suffer, the community gets united.

  my disappointmemt was mainly because there were some brothers in Eritreia that were more than 20 years in jail because they refused to hold a gun to kill, an action worthy of praise. In this case the GB always told the JW to pray for these brothers.

  well when Russia attacked the branch, the website, the publications, they lost their minds, ignated a shameful letter campaign which drove close to political involvement, (after that the GB sent a letter to all congregations partially blaming them for the failure of the campaign), and had no shame to study their past court victories and say it was God blessing them while said that the most recent lost was persecution ans God would still show his power.

  I just wished they made the same efforts for the Jw in Eritreia and took that brothers out of Jail.
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  Anbody know...

  by careful in

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  ...what david ianelli is doing these days?

  he was in the writing department and known as one of the more liberal brothers there.

  he gave loving, heartfelt talks.

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  Never heard this name. Where can I found info about him?
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  Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.

  i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.

  my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .

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  Me too, always wanted to study physics but I was brainwashed and pioneered for 4 years after high school.

  I'm taking physics now :)
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  Has anybody experienced a judicial committee in a private venue?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think getting them to agree to a private place would give you an edge (even if the egde of their sword closer to home).

  if i'm ever hauled before their kangaroo court i will only go on one of three conditions .1 non jw venue .2 with legal representation .

  3 the recording of proceedings.

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  Im treated as a DF person even though they never took the action.

  Stuckinarut this is kind of perfect. The people who really cares about you won't stop talking to you since there's no announcement. The others, I suppose you don't miss them.

  Oh man, I so hope it goes this way with me.
  
  
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  What would happen when... in Warwick

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what would happen when the man on the picture below, would ring the bell at 1. kings drive in texudo.

  " the guard asked with a routine smile on his face.

  "maybe i can help you, i presume?

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  Ray Frankz

  JEsus, We waited soooo much for you!

  Take this razor blade and come back here after shaving this worldly beard.

  PS: You may leave the moustache because of... reasons.